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From: Mostafa Youssef <mostafayoussef@me.com>
Subject: Indymedia Cairo Preliminary Meeting
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Dear All,=0AWe met with Leil from Lebanon/Barcelona at the commune today t=
he 11th of March. to discuss the start of an Indymedia chapter in Cairo. T=
his email is sent to you because you were either in the meeting or interes=
ted in participating in the project.=0A=0AA meeting on Sunday 6pm is sched=
uled at the commune to set up a team and work mechanism for the Indymedia =
Cairo chapter.=0AMeanwhile and until then=EF=BB=BF=0AThe following are bri=
ef minutes for what was discussed at the meeting:=0A=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=0ALeil=
 started by giving a brief introduction of how Indymedia.org started out i=
n 1999: during the Seattle events, many activists were furious about the m=
edia coverage and they decided to work on what they called: don't hate the=
 media, be the media. and they created Indymedia.=0A=0ASince then it has h=
ad many chapters around the world, in the Arab world there was two: Indyme=
dia Beirut which Leil was active in but ended due to the absence of active=
 members, and Indymedia Jerusalem which was split over internal Palestinia=
n quarrels!=0A=0AThey had tried to start up one in Iraq, but they couldn't=
 get a full agreement on the Indymedia core principles in the Iraqi group =
so it never made it.=0A=0AThe core principles are: no censorship except on=
 racist or sexist issues, to be completely open to people's entries and re=
ports.=0AThese principles along with Indymedia's big presence attracts Tro=
lls (fake news distributors!) `so they created mechanisms in the page to d=
eal with trolls and to have an editorial team which leads the reporting.=0A=
=0AAmr raised a question of having already a hub of reporting news from Eg=
ypt to the outside world which is Global Voices Online. This opened a disc=
ussion on GlobalVoices Online vs Indymedia.  It was decided IM is a better=
 preference because GV has two main issues: central control, and liberal c=
hoices overriding truth of reporting.=0A=0ALeil also discussed using webst=
reaming on minipimer.tv which is open source software for streaming, eithe=
r to embed it, if technically possible, or to set it up somewhere else and=
 advertise it on Indymedia.=0A=0AGroup agrees to attempt at setting up Ind=
ymedia, Leil says he already sent Indymedia.org asking to set up a local c=
hapter. We briefly discuss whether egypt chapter or cairo chapter, then de=
cide on Cairo because most of our focus will be local, and it allows other=
 groups to set up other cities on their own, also you can always report ab=
out other cities from cairo.=0A=0AAgreed on cairo.indymedia.com and as we =
wait for Indymedia.org's response we need to choose a team! so we decide o=
n a Meeting on Sunday 6pm to take more direct steps.=0A=0ALastly, Leil ask=
s for another person to coordinate with him correspondence with indymedia.=
org, we decide it will be Lobna.=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A=0ABest, Mostafa=0A=0A=

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<html><body><div>Dear All,<br></div><div>We met with Leil from Lebanon/Barcelona at th=
e commune today the 11th of March. to discuss the start of an Indymedia ch=
apter in Cairo. This email is sent to you because you were either in the m=
eeting or interested in participating in the project.<br></div><div><br></=
div><div>A meeting on Sunday 6pm is scheduled at the commune to set up a t=
eam and work mechanism for the Indymedia Cairo chapter.<br></div><div>Mean=
while and until then<br></div><div>The following are brief minutes for wha=
t was discussed at the meeting:<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>=3D=3D=3D=
=3D<br>=0A</div></div><div>Leil started by giving a brief introduction of =
how Indymedia.org started out in 1999: during the Seattle events, many act=
ivists were furious about the media coverage and they decided to work on w=
hat they called: don't hate the media, be the media. and they created Indy=
media. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Since then it has had many chapters a=
round the world, in the Arab world there was two: Indymedia Beirut which L=
eil was active in but ended due to the absence of active members, and Indy=
media Jerusalem which was split over internal Palestinian quarrels!<br><br=
></div><div>They had tried to start up one in Iraq, but they couldn't get =
a full agreement on the Indymedia core principles in the Iraqi group so it=
 never made it.<br><br></div><div>The core principles are: no censorship e=
xcept on racist or sexist issues, to be completely open to people's entrie=
s and reports.<br>These principles along with Indymedia's big presence att=
racts Trolls (fake news distributors!) `so they created mechanisms in the =
page to deal with trolls and to have an editorial team which leads the rep=
orting.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Amr raised a question of having alrea=
dy a hub of reporting news from Egypt to the outside world which is Global=
 Voices Online. This opened a discussion on GlobalVoices Online =0Avs Indy=
media.&nbsp; It was decided IM is a better preference because GV has two m=
ain issues: central control, and liberal =0Achoices overriding truth of re=
porting.<br>=0A<br>=0ALeil also discussed using webstreaming on <a href=3D=
"http://minipimer.tv/" target=3D"_blank">minipimer.tv</a> which is open so=
urce software for streaming, either to embed it, if technically possible, =
or to set it up somewhere else and advertise it on Indymedia.<br></div><di=
v><br></div><div>Group agrees to attempt at setting up Indymedia, Leil say=
s he already sent Indymedia.org asking to set up a local chapter. We brief=
ly discuss whether egypt chapter or cairo chapter, then decide on Cairo be=
cause most of our focus will be local, and it allows other groups to set u=
p other cities on their own, also you can always report about other cities=
 from cairo.<br>=0A<br>=0AAgreed on <a href=3D"http://cairo.indymedia.com/=
" target=3D"_blank">cairo.indymedia.com</a> and as we wait for Indymedia.o=
rg's response we need to choose a team! so we decide on a Meeting on Sunda=
y 6pm to take more direct steps.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Lastly, Leil=
 asks for another person to coordinate with him correspondence with indyme=
dia.org, we decide it will be Lobna.<br></div><div>=3D=3D=3D=3D<br></div><=
div><br></div><div>Best, Mostafa<br></div><div><br>=0A</div></body></html>=

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