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=D8=B3=D9=8A=D8=B9=D9=85=D9=84 =D8=B9=D9=84=D9=89 = =D8=AA=D9=86=D8=B6=D9=8A=D8=AF =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=86=D8=B5 =D9=84=D8=BA=D9=88=D9=8A=D8=A7 * =D8=B9=D9=85=D8=B1=D9=88 =D8=B9=D9=84=D9=89 =D8=A7=D9=84=D9=82=D8=A7= =D8=A6=D9=85=D8=A9 =D8=A7=D9=84=D8=AA=D9=82=D9=86=D9=8A=D8=A9 * =D9=85=D9=84=D8=A3=D9=86=D8=A7 =D8=A7=D8=B3=D8=AA=D9=85=D8=A7=D8=B1= =D8=A9 =D8=A7=D9=84=D8=A7=D9=84=D8=AA=D8=AD=D8=A7=D9=82 Dear Friends, As per our previous agreement we met yesterday Sunday the 13 of March, =20= 2011 to take active steps in the founding of Independent Media Center =20= - Cairo. This is a summary of what was explained and decided in the =20 meeting, and this will be the last email to be sent on this list. For =20= those interested in joining the project, you can participate through =20 the mailing list at = http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-cairo=20 . Let it be known that all correspondence is available publicly so =20 refrain from exposing personal or private information about you or =20 others. Independent Media Center - Cairo: Topics discussed and decisions made: - Leil explained the structure of IMC, as a non-hierarchal volunteer-=20 based organism, the decision making and working process is made =20 through various email lists for each function. So the New-IMC List is =20= responsible for approving and setting up New IMCs, there's the Tech-=20 IMC, responsible for technical issues and support. - We filed the application form to the New-IMC list, and we already =20 have interested people in the Tech list to give us technical support. =20= We will ask them to set up our IMC on Drupal platform. And Amr will be =20= our technical representative for dealings with the tech list. - Language choice: For inner correspondence and discussion: Mainly in =20= Arabic unless you cannot write it you use english and the first person =20= to respond will translate to Arabic! - Language of reporting: we write in both languages, translations to =20 be outsourced outside Egypt, so we can report. On the website it shows =20= each article in its original language with tabs for different =20 translations. - Decision making: after discussing either majority or consensus: we =20 decide on basing it on consensus! 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Dear Friends,
As per our previous agreement we met = yesterday Sunday the 13 of March, 2011 to take active steps in the = founding of Independent Media Center - Cairo. This is a summary of what = was explained and decided in the meeting, and this will be the last = email to be sent on this list. For those interested in joining the = project, you can participate through the mailing list at http://list= s.indymedia.org/mailman/listinfo/imc-cairo. Let it be known that all = correspondence is available publicly so refrain from exposing personal = or private information about you or = others.

Independent Media Center - Cairo: = Topics discussed and decisions made:

- Leil = explained the structure of IMC, as a non-hierarchal volunteer-based = organism, the decision making and working process is made through = various email lists for each function. So the New-IMC List is = responsible for approving and setting up New IMCs, there's the Tech-IMC, = responsible for technical issues and support.

- = We filed the application form to the New-IMC list, and we already have = interested  people in the Tech list to give us technical support. = We will ask them to set up our IMC on Drupal platform. And Amr will be = our technical representative for dealings with the tech = list.

- Language choice: For inner = correspondence and discussion: Mainly in Arabic unless you cannot write = it you use english and the first person to respond will translate to = Arabic!

- Language of reporting: we write in = both languages, translations to be outsourced outside Egypt, so we can = report. On the website it shows each article in its original language = with tabs for different translations.

- Decision making: = after discussing either majority or consensus: we decide on basing it on = consensus! But we will have a rotating moderator every time and in cases = of conflict we will have Amr as a Peacemaker.

- On the = website Two main columns: editorial team and open column.

- All = editorial team members have power to post in editorial team column and = if conflict rises we flag it publicly and put it in the open column = until we solve conflict and put back in main column!

- Tech list = will give us a wikispace for our editorial work to communally edit = news.

- Lobna will look into more consensus tools = online.

- Ahmed Bahgat will be our Cairo IMC list = admin.

- Lobna will be representative on the global = list. 

- We agree on IMC membership policy except = point 'm' regarding the cities list: we will not list = Israel!

- Lobna will write the mission statement = draft, Amr will finalize it.

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