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National Liberation Movements
Formulating positions from National Liberation Movements
Deciding positions from national liberation movements is a controversial issue that results in a schism among socialist, perhaps more since the rise of Religious Right in dominantly-Muslim countries. Does supporting nationalism benefit the socialist cause? Are there different kinds of national liberation movements (either before taking power, or during their reign). Does all anti-imperialism liberation benefit the socialist cause? What are the differences between fascist, Islamist, 'liberal', and leftish movements and regimes? What are the criteria upon which socialists should formulate their positions from national liberation movements?
Our positions from national liberation movements should be the result of the working of different criteria:
1. Relation to the people it claims to represent. Position on the compass (left/right * authoritarian/anti-authoritarian): The closer the movement is to us on the Political Compass, the more suitable it is to support
2. Relation to imperialism: the more anti-Imperialist the movement is, the more suitable it is to support. Is this any different than the more imperialism is against the national liberation movement? Anti-imperial national liberation movements are anti-imperial until they are the new
imperialism. Are there categorical differences between North nationalism (and fascism) and South nationalism, or are they on the same industrialisation continuum?
3. Relation to us: we are under no pressure to formulate a position from the Tamil movement or from Islamists in the Philippines as we are from Islamists in Egypt, Palestine, Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. A concern here is that our different positions of two similar national liberation movements means that we are populist and utilitarian, essentially an anti-socialist position. Another concern of populism and utilitarianism is that socialists are internationalists. The proper socialist rationale here should be the proper socialist rationale there.
How we can influence the national liberation movement, and how the movement can influence us
4. Trajectory: how the movement is developing, and if this trajectory can be beneficial to a socialist agenda.
سامح نجيب في 2006: في مثل هذه الحالات على اليسار المناضل أن يدخل في عمل مشترك مع الإخوان، ولكن هذا العمل المشترك لا يجعلنا نتوقف للحظة عن نقد موقف الإخوان عندما يهادنون من جديد أو عندما يحرفون مسار المعركة نحو قضايا أخلاقية و رجعية. والعمل المشترك لا يجعلنا نتنازل ولو للحظة واحدة عن رايتنا المستقلة.
استطاع اليسار المصري، خصوصا في جناحه التروتسكي، تكوين موقف مركب من الإخوان المسلمين في مصر، و نشأ عن ذلك الموقف تعاون معهم في موضوعات تتلاقى فيها مصالح و اهتمامات كل من اليساريين و الإسلاميين، و هي عموما موضوعات تتعلق بالحقوق السياسية و المدنية، في موقف صيغ في شعار "أحيانا مع الإخوان؛ دائما ضد الدولة"، و هو موقف أثار الكثير من الجدل في دوائر اليسار--خصوصا أن ذلك التعاون نادرا ما كان مفيدا لليسار و أحيانا compromising--و إن بدأ يخفت مع صعود حركة الاحتجاج الاجتماعي، و وجود فرصة لعمل على الأرض، فيبدو للناظر اليوم أن الموقف من الإسلاميين في مصر--بل و وجود الإسلاميين أنفسهم--أقل الحاحا و أكثر انفصالا عن ما هو مهم و ملح من أي وقت قريب مضى.