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Nazly´s email was misspelled in the previous communication. I just
forwarded all messages to her (including the amazing minutes made by
Mostafa). Please reply to this email not the previous ones.

Leil Zahra escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> In preparation for the meeting tomorrow at 6 p.m. at the commune, if
> you have time take a look at the following things that are important.
> If you don´t have time, it is o.k. I will bring them printed tomorrow.
>
> But first a quick update, I talked to the New-IMC list and the tech
> list and both are excited to have us with them. We still didn´t get
> official approval because we have to fill some forms (which I´m
> including below and bringing them with me tomorrow for those who don´t
> have time to check them online)
>
> I also solicited a working group e-mail list for us to use and spare
> ourselves the multiple email addresses in every correspondence. The
> list will be hosted on the IMC server and it will be archived so we
> can always log in and read old emails. This will help us have minutes
> of our discussions without having to worry where and how to save them.
> It was supposed to await approval by the New-IMC first, but the
> IMC-List people jumped the rules and created one for us and we have
> it. I just sent you all invitations to join. If you are interested in
> joining the project please accept the invitation and we can start
> discussing there as soon as everyone has joined. (Yaaaay :) it seems
> we started getting people to jump the rules just for us :)) the list
> is imc-cairo@lists.indymedia.org
>
> If you are using hotmail or other capitalist email hosts, please check
> your spam folder for the invitation. Those thugs tend to block emails
> from rise-up and other alternative email hosts.
>
> Lobna, I have included you in the last email I sent to the New-IMC
> list. I will send you a private email explaining how to join the list.
>
> I also wrote to many geek friends who can set-up pages and we are
> discussing possible platforms. We believe Wordpress (which seems to be
> the most familiar one to the majority in our group) could be a valid
> choice. Keep your fingers crossed. Hopefully tomorrow I will have more
> information.
>
> I also contacted people abroad who might be interested in doing
> translation work for us. I have some confirmations already. So once we
> have the website approved, we will create a translators list and put
> everyone to work for us :)
>
> Suggested points to be added on the agenda of tomorrow´s meeting
>
> 1- We to decide on at least two people to administrate the list, which
> is basically accepting emails of those who are NOT on our list and not
> from our group but want to ask us something. This is to avoid spam and
> unrelated information.
> 2- Language used in email discussion, choosing a language that
> everyone is comfortable using.
> 3- Agree on some Indymedia documents (general principles and codes)
>    a) IMC Principles of Unity (they can be read on this link
> https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/PrinciplesOfUnity ) (scroll
> down for the English text)
>    b) IMC membership criteris (on the following link, also scroll down
> for English) https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/MembershipCriteria
>    c) NIMC mission statement
> https://docs.indymedia.org/Global/MissionStatement
> 4- If we have time and energy then maybe we can start preparing our
> own mission statement and editorial policy. For this maybe it would be
> a good idea to take a look at those of Indymedia Beirut. You can read
> it here: http://beirut.indymedia.org/static/about_ar.shtml
> 5- I´m not sure if everyone is familiar with the Consensus Decision
> Making Process, but it is an important tool for IMCs worldwide, so
> maybe it would be good going over it unless we are all clear on it
> (anyone can prepare for a small presentation about it just in case we
> need it?).
>
> I´m sorry if this sounds too much, usually this is done with time, but
> as we all said we want to have this as soon as possible. And
> "bureaucracy" is always boring, but once all is done we don´t need to
> worry about such things. It will be like blogging as we said. Checking
> all this information is also important to learn a bit about what
> Indymedia and why it became and important tool for change. Not just as
> a news portal, but also as a way of doing political activism
>
> Please feel free to froward this to trusted people who might be
> interested, and invite them to the meeting. Hope you are still excited
> after this long email :)
>
> See you all tomorrow,
> Leil-Zahra
>
> Mostafa Youssef escribió:
>> + CORRECTION OF ATTACHED EMAIL LIST + PLEASE USE THIS EMAIL LIST IN
>> REPLIES AND DISCUSSIONS +
>> -------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>> We met with Leil from Lebanon/Barcelona at the commune today the 11th
>> of March. to discuss the start of an Indymedia chapter in Cairo. This
>> email is sent to you because you were either in the meeting or
>> interested in participating in the project.
>>
>> A meeting on Sunday 6pm is scheduled at the commune to set up a team
>> and work mechanism for the Indymedia Cairo chapter.
>> Meanwhile and until then
>> The following are brief minutes for what was discussed at the meeting:
>>
>> ====
>> Leil started by giving a brief introduction of how Indymedia.org
>> started out in 1999: during the Seattle events, many activists were
>> furious about the media coverage and they decided to work on what
>> they called: don't hate the media, be the media. and they created
>> Indymedia.
>> Since then it has had many chapters around the world, in the Arab
>> world there was two: Indymedia Beirut which Leil was active in but
>> ended due to the absence of active members, and Indymedia Jerusalem
>> which was split over internal Palestinian quarrels!
>>
>> They had tried to start up one in Iraq, but they couldn't get a full
>> agreement on the Indymedia core principles in the Iraqi group so it
>> never made it.
>>
>> The core principles are: no censorship except on racist or sexist
>> issues, to be completely open to people's entries and reports.
>> These principles along with Indymedia's big presence attracts Trolls
>> (fake news distributors!) `so they created mechanisms in the page to
>> deal with trolls and to have an editorial team which leads the
>> reporting.
>>
>> Amr raised a question of having already a hub of reporting news from
>> Egypt to the outside world which is Global Voices Online. This opened
>> a discussion on GlobalVoices Online vs Indymedia.  It was decided IM
>> is a better preference because GV has two main issues: central
>> control, and liberal choices overriding truth of reporting.
>>
>> Leil also discussed using webstreaming on minipimer.tv
>> <http://minipimer.tv/> which is open source software for streaming,
>> either to embed it, if technically possible, or to set it up
>> somewhere else and advertise it on Indymedia.
>>
>> Group agrees to attempt at setting up Indymedia, Leil says he already
>> sent Indymedia.org asking to set up a local chapter. We briefly
>> discuss whether egypt chapter or cairo chapter, then decide on Cairo
>> because most of our focus will be local, and it allows other groups
>> to set up other cities on their own, also you can always report about
>> other cities from cairo.
>>
>> Agreed on cairo.indymedia.com <http://cairo.indymedia.com/> and as we
>> wait for Indymedia.org's response we need to choose a team! so we
>> decide on a Meeting on Sunday 6pm to take more direct steps.
>>
>> Lastly, Leil asks for another person to coordinate with him
>> correspondence with indymedia.org, we decide it will be Lobna.
>> ====
>>
>> Best, Mostafa
>
>